Working Group Reportbacks
DIGITAL MEDIA continued…We are working on developing a self hosted open source website so we can do away with google groups we also want to develop a wiki and a forum directly on the website, we’re also working reliable 24 7 wi-fi hot spot.
POI we have someone working on that as we speak
Lastly livestream is obviously up and running, and soon we plan to begin livestreaming around the camp.
POI regarding your dual communities, LA has the highest illiteracy rates, additionally a lot of people in the parish don’t use computers
POI I think he was talking about the digital media group,
POI please see outreach, because we can reach people who are not online by participate in Walk Against Crime
DIRECT ACTION
encourage all GA members to distribute flyers about Saturday-Sunday
we have contacted local musicians which would encourage a positive second line approach and aid in drawing numbers, we don’t have confirmation, please reach out to performers who would like to participate
tomorrow is the citywide night out against crime, and great opportunity for occupiers to extend our occupation to our other communities and to the communities we live in, extend invitations to people we meet on this night our to participate in this
tomorrow at Direct Action meeting at 11am, discussing possible routes about Sat marching group, encourage everyone
having a meeting that allowed folks who work 9-5 to attend, taking a general temperature outside of GA about two items, creating a work group that reached out into the community to help with things like painting, bike repair, etc. not tomorrow the next day, and 2 protesting outside of the federal reserve
POI have strict parameter for the scope and responsibilities are going to be at this time
this is why we want to judge temperature before making any commitments
POI in the interest in making what we do tomorrow work, for this one time I would like to bend process, and add a small proposal. It will be damn near impossible to have GA tomorrow and effectively participate in night out against crime
POP it sets a terrible precedent and I hope we never do it again
Clarifying Question (C) is it just to cancel the meeting tomorrow?
POP that should be discussed when we bring up the proposal later
POI will you post the flyer for the march online
C are questions a part of report backs?
POP no
temp check on allowing questions for today in report backs, sending it to the work groups to discuss that
can someone in the facilitation group clarify
questions on clarification, not proposals
a number of times tonight we have skirted the lines of proposal, there seems to be another pattern evolving you must be aware of it
C to direct action, can you please tell us more about tomorrow
POP is this something that can be taken care of after the meeting if it is not hashed out during their proposal
POI it is on the agenda
are there any other groups that need to do reportbacks
WELLNESS
continue to please drink your water, we have request for medics to relieve me at my station in the pavilion, shifts are 10-6 and 6-1 you can break it up, we will have a meeting relating to the events of Saturday, we have an open support group 5 pm you are invited to come new fancy flyers that you can come pick up and peruse we also have a new contained for your diabetic needles just thrown around the park if you have one speak to wellness and they will come and retrieve it for you, wellness has a new facebook group, occupy nola wellness working group, google group, we at wellness have received more donations more than I could have hoped for thank you
ENTERTAINMENT
for those of you getting tired of seeing the same white male representing 3 working groups, I will keep this brief, we are still planning to do concerts we are looking for performers for marches and protest, whatever you can dream up, using entertainment to spread our message we’ve scheduled a meeting for Wed 5, please run your ideas by us
ACCOUNTING
I am one of 4 people on your accounting group, we have about 700 dollars we cannot access there is a very long process, like we can consented last night, we can use that money for stuff, I understand we cannot make it to our point on the agenda, we are taking baby steps that is appropriate breaking brains to give proposal that includes the fact that accounting will never have any opinion on using money, we will help working groups make spending requests to the GA, meeting tomorrow at 6
LEGAL
concerning your legal concerns we’re working on them but we donÂ’t know them all so if you working group or individually have concerns reach us online and we’ll get answers to you asap at the legal group google group
C besides having legal question would one be of any use if they wanted to get involved?
what do you mean?
Anyone can join the working group you just know how to be able to research. Second point is the emergency number still work, yes hopefully no one will have to use it working on building a coalition of lawyers and non-lawyers to be present for direct action
POI number is available at information and education desk
PUBLIC SAFETY (integrity)
we’ve been calling our working group integrity because pub safety is one one concern our main focus is to keep up integrity within the group this includes morale and conveying our message to people wh come through here while most of you are sleeping if you signed up for pub safety patrol know when you are supposed to do that and convene at town hall
POI reminder don’t use names
TRANSPORTATION
it hasnÂ’t met at all I guess we havenÂ’t needed it that much iÂ’ve been using my van let us know what kind of vehicle you have I guess we can maybe meet after this
C tonight can you talk about transportation for tomorrow?
ANNOUNCEMENTS
CITY HALL HAS A PLACEE CALLED THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHERE THEY DECIDE LOTS OF THINGS ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNANCE OPEN TO PUBLIC AT 10 AM THERE IS A MEETING ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE
if you want to go to be there to be seen OR to share an opinion it is in an auditorium and is televised, maybe a group wants to go to show someone has a presence full calendar available online, meeting on 12th on economic issues
tonight after the general assembly we’ll have ART club in the light, whatever time you can make it show up, also we need donations so please bring some, we meet every monday night, hopefully we can meet more, also one or two people from entertainment club to show up at art-club to discuss a batman play
caucus for people of color meets again wednesday at 2 in pavilion
my bike was stolen today from this general hill there is a description at the bulletin board please take care of your belongings as Utopian as this feels we are not alone so please watch your belongings as well
today I helped start an info table I donÂ’t think this requires a committee or schedule there is sign and a chair, just say hi and engage
sleeping bag left in pavilion accidentally Northface black bag please give it back
sleeping bag got stolen as well, big brown sleeping bag can fit 1 ½ person its not ours so id like to give it back
on thursday at 3 there will be a womenÂ’s caucus in the pavilion, ladies and people who identify as ladies to talk about how it should function
tomorrow at 4 co-facilitating a discussion geared to men and masculine persons but not exclusively on how those people can better be in solidarity with women and feminine people and we are going to attempt to organize with womenÂ’s caucus so it is accountable to them
POI although iÂ’m sure no one here is named that no names and place no last names
consent to close stack on announcements
AGENDA!
DECENTRALIZATION OF WEALTH
POI from yesterday is that individual here? Yes
your name is ag wildman and spoke for a few minutes in jackson square going to overview your american wealth decentralization program you posted 4500 word version of this on my blog on the morning of the march I put together the short version of it for us today we are the first group to hear this decentralization program we appreciate you are more a writer than speaker, you would like consensus from us on it but do not expect because there is a lot to take ain and there could be too many questions for this evening
POI we only discussed the title of the proposal yesterday
C your group OWS does not have a specific agenda right now and you are getting criticism from that from the press we’re still new but it is something that will be needed and something the nation really needs
POI we are not OWS we are ONOLA, I believe this is better addressed in a working group before it is brought before the GA
proposal ask this wonderful gentlemen to go to media or another working group
c we made an agreement even though we didnÂ’t know what we agreed to, skirting the lines again, is it appropriate for them to speak?
We wait until they are finished to ask POI, temp check SPEAK
it has to start someplace it might as well start in NOLA, consultant in DC solve problems large and small,. If you saw what was coming. Til 2005, after Bush got re-elected , I wrote a book called the Second Coming of Common Sense. 718 pages. August 2, I formed the independent American Peasant Party, on August 30, I became a candidate for President. It has 27 proposals. However, in August, the trend in financial consultants. It took me two days to recover from a video I saw. The video, ninety minutes, objectively details the degradation of our society, the U.S. Dollar, and the inevitable coming of our second Great Depression. It took two days to recover from that, start analysis, and begin working on the problem. Two other people reviewed it. That grim knowledge of our future changed everything. On Sepetember 15, we posted a one stop shop on that crisis, just so that we have a frame of reference on what’s coming. A 1929 style crash, the stock market could lose half its value immediately. For example, a loaf of bread will cost fifteen dollars. Thus food and energy suddenly become expensive and scarce. Home prices will collapse. A real unemployment rate of fifteen percent will soar over twenty-five percent. More people, as the 1930s, will not be able to pay their mortgage or buy food.
Point of information: Part of the definition of proposal, is the word concise.
There will be civil unrest, things will be bad and worse. The one percent will be unaffected, besides hiring more security guards. This is to be a long overdue confrontation, reconciliation in the selfish have,s and the struggling have-nots. The battle is economic fairness. American Revolution brought about democracy and government. Our second revolution, will be a legislative confrontation, and will be a revolution of economics. In preparation, housing prices will be frozen. All foreclosures on houses and farms will be cancelled and off our board. General housing foreclosures will be taken away from owners and be put in a national resident relocation. Every citizen will have a fixed address and never have to fear losing the roof over our heads. Finally, commodity prices will be frozen, for at least six months, their prices will be reduced and have immediate impact around the world. Personal wealth in the US is fifty-five trillion dollars. Millionaires have sixty-five percent, thirty-five percent. We will take fifteen trillion of that and pay off all residential mortgages, we will pay off all existing student loans, we will pay off all existing credit cards, leaving about a trillion dollars. We will have instructed the banks and the Federal Reserve Board, to take down the fifteen trillion dollar debt. Our annual deficit is 1.5 trillion dollars per year. Individual and family monthly cash flow will be greatly improved and will prepare people for the depression. We can’t avoid it. But those transactions will remove most of the pressure on the dollar. We can’t lose the dollar, it is our reserve currency.
What do we do to make this happen?
We’d like the OWS group to adopt this proposal as their own, to counter Wall Street. It is the only proposal put forth currently to avert that depression, or at least delay it and greatly reduce the pain we have. Greece Italy Ireland and others are on the verge of collapse. We urge the group to adopt the American Peasant Party and my candidacy in the 2012 election cycle. Finally, all the drives of this national grassroots effort, we could recall sixty-seven senators not up for re-election next year. So we can vote ‘em all out. Yes this would be the American people’s electoral revolution.
Would it also be possible for this platform to be available in our library, so we might have time to re-convene.
Can I get a general temp check?
Would the gentleman be interested in working with us, if we do not adopt his program, to develop our ideas?
My concern is this continues to support the white man, racist, homophobic system. I would like to see true democracy, true self-governance, true self-sufficiency, which is not alienating, but life-giving instead.
Thank you for your concerted effort. I have a feeling it won’t resonate here. But thank you.
I have a concern with this mostly because it seems if we were to adopt this, we would also be endorsing a political party and candidate.
That’s why I said up front: consensus. Because it’s something that’s coming. And most Americans don’t even know it.
I’d like to re-iterate the concern….
We need something we can own and create ourselves.
My main problem… I don’t want to say problem… but thing. We could create a declaration or document thing ourselves and pass it ourselves.
Yay or nay?
Working group with new info?
POP
still have this proposal
yay or nay? yay
Opening stack for dissent
just wanna say as a group we donÂ’t alienate mr wildman regardless he put forth a lot of work, good ideas, because disagreement, still valuable
POP my understanding, clearly no consensus—no dissenters
facilitator made some nonsense
as dissenter, the gen temp is that we like it but, not accepting it now. Proposal for working group?
POP i’m unclear but, I believe, no counter proposals end this soon please.
yay or nay mystery proposal
any blocks? Yes but, proposal dies no one knows how to do this consensus thing
hat tricks. No for real. Real hat tricks
one hat trick off his foot.
Facilitator, limit number of proposals? 9:35
POI GA tomorrow night?
POI we decided to discussing…
POI shouldn’t we discuss tomorrow night first?
IÂ’m so sorry, but we need to talk about DA proposal because of press
POI iÂ’m doing your temp strategically
we need to discuss action before 15th
temp check—we’ll discuss it next
agenda item is go ahead DA
thanks for making this a priority. 15th is global day of action. We want to march in solidarity with world wide movement. Want flyers by tomorrow for night out against crime need consensus only on place and time. Proposed: Duncan plaza at 2 pm.
Opening stack:
Closed stack:
Opening stack for concerns: protest every day at FED.
POP time later for amendments
POI starting march here at 2? ah, yes, indeed
before amendments, maybe closer to tourists since its a saturday
POC all other details can be discussed at a later time. Only start place and time
concern is if not start then, maybe tourists spots not discussed
DA meeting___________
POI why not lafayette square?
Duncan plaza most convenient for tourists
POI15th is saturday, lafayette square will be empty
POI banks will be closed 2pm saturday, may limit action.
DAgroup response: Again, DA meeting tomorrow at 11 am for all other details
POI but, all the banks closed
DAgroup response: DA group would be happy to amend proposals
this is not time for amendments, this is concerns
we are not focusing on issues on hand? Are we going to have a DA on Oct 15th?
Consent to close stacks? Sure.
Amendments:
Hopefully DA will be more empowered in the future to announce plans at least two GA s in the future so concerned may join group.
Yes, friendly.
Is that really an amendment?
Since meeting tomorrow at 11, lets just consent on action on october 15th.
I think 2 pm is problematic.
The time can be changed right now so we can make a PR. Most imporatnt to give out at night out against crime.
Friendly amendments to meet at 1?
sure, friendly.
POI But, the banks will be closed.
DA against banks is fine, pleases do it on your own. Can we please pass this proposal?
POP Friendly amendment, time to proceed.
Reminder, this will be larger march. What about their schedules? One is probablly too early. Will lose number for starting too early.
Proposers repeals amendment. BACK TO TWO.
POP If we start too late, it will be too pointless. They wont be there to see us walk down the street.
ThatÂ’s not a friendly amendment
What about my other amendment? About the announcing of DA’s?
Rejected.
Consent to close stack
consent on voting
ya or nay? CONSENSUS
temp check on ending early?
POI please read rest of agenda items? Early GA time on weekends; media free zone; may day n.o. Would like to screen film; dog leashes; legal rep us; will we pray; reading agenda earlier; _________________
We will def discuss canceling meeting tomorrow.
POI I have something on prayer. Spoke to proposer, figured out alternative way to present it. May be taken off agenda.
Pressing finance proposal, affects all of us, should vote.
Two pressing agenda items. Consent.
Canceling meeting? Temp check?
Repeated: what else is going on tomorrow
POI—night out against crime in N.O. Really important that we’re involved in our community. This meeting usually lasts way too long.
POI—stack is open for this.
What exactly do we have organized?
Every neighborhood across the city, poor hoods, crime ridden goods, will be having block parties. We can reach these community members there face to face, addressing some of our diversity problems. Meet the community, bring people in, tomorrow night is extremely important. Giving up agenda to expand occupation.
Still confused. Go to our own hood?
I’ll send you the block party list. Need your email address. Go to a different neighborhood, you already talk to your own neighbors.
All at the same time?
6 to 9?
DA meets at 11 am.
Press will also meet after meeting.
POI who wants to do stack?
Consent to close stack?
Open for concerns: just wondering about a plan to ensure that enough people represent at occupied park for when we are away, still need to occupy park. Still have GA for people still here?
We donÂ’t know about plan. Guess there should be one developed in proper group. DonÂ’t have GA so folks who want to participate in both, to not detour people from NOAG.
Concern: Full agenda, another GA time?
POP good idea but, another proposal
POP maybe its an amendment. No one knows
hey, looks like were stuck in process a lot.
If we miss a GA, we might lose people.
Stack open to amendments: what happened to 1pm
Friendly amendment to have 1
friendly amendment – the assembly tomorrow could decide to dissolve tomorrow at 7
not a friendly amendment
friendly amendment – this group should make a plan to make sure there are enough occupiers in the park while everyone else is gone
poi
friendly amendment – to ask if we can end the meeting and go to the march
poi – alternate amendment – could we suspend this agenda till wednesday
friendly yes
POI – if there was going to be a number of people who have to stay here to occupy this space that they should have a GA
poi – it seems to me the GA there are always people absent, even if we consented not to have an assembly, we can’t stop people from having an assembly
addressed friendly amendments
suspending the items for tonight and making the first agenda item as to weather to dissolve GA
vote on proposal with amendments
**proposal is rescinded**
accounting proposal
temp check on proposal
to access our wepay funds we need to
a. open a bank account
b. put all the money on a single prepaid visa card
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